- Rational discourse is only possible if we have (and use) agreed upon definitions of our key terms. We have so little true conversation (among opposing groups) because of the failure to use agreed upon definitions. The people in a society can only have rational discourse if they want it; and sad, many people do not want this. Instead of using words (language) as a source of communication, they use words as weapons in political conflict.
- we see yet another sad example of this in the decision of the Swedish elite to ban creationism in the schools. (This edict doesn't just apply to government run schooling centers, but to private schools as well.)
Quotes and comments;
1. 'Creationism and intelligent design are being banned in Swedish schools, reported the English version of the Swedish news source, The Local. Intelligent design (ID) makes no claim about the Creator, but only the detectability of design; nevertheless, both were banned equally.
This may not be unexpected after the Council of Europe resolution last week (10/06/2007). What’s unusual about this decision, though, is that creationism has been banned from church schools – because Sweden, like many European countries, has a state church. “The Swedish government is to crack down on the role religion plays in independent faith schools,” the article began. “Pupils must be protected from all forms of fundamentalism.” [1.]
- I wonder if these people even know what fundamental means.
Fundamental;
1. 'Pertaining to the foundation or basis; serving for the foundation. Hence: Essential, as an element, principle, or law; important; original; elementary; as, a fundamental truth; a fundamental axiom.
- as an aside, Webster's gives the following example; "The fundamental reasons of this war." Shakespeare. [Apropos no?]
- I have further news for these law thumpers; all of us are fundamentalists. I mean by this that all of us have basic presuppositions. (e.g. the basic presuppostion of an atheist is Materialim; the basic presupposition of a Christian is a creator God.) Every person needs a foundation to stand on; and every worldview in turn has a foundation. Despite the patronizing swill spouted by the Swedish elite there is no way around this. (i.e. to denounce someone as a fundamentalist is to have said nothing at all; it's merely to have quacked like a duck.)
- All forms of fundamentalism? Hardly. Nobody could be more of a fundamentalist than the Darwinians of the church of the welfare state. This is just a joke; the term fundamentalist is defined in an arbitrary and self-serving way. To do this is grossly uncivil act. Are 'pupils' being protected from Marxist fundamentalists? Socialist fundamentalists? Atheist fundamentalists? Darwinian fundamentalists? Obviously not.
- what's so pathetic about this is that 'fundamentalism' is a word that has no meaning. The fact that it's given one definition by one group and another by other groups makes rational discourse impossible.
- all this goes back to the Marxist theorist Gramsci, who recommended using language as an attack on capitalists and Christians.
2. 'Most independent schools in Sweden are privately owned but funded by government grants, the article said. Schools that break the rules can be closed by the Swedish National Agency for Education, which is doubling the number of inspectors to ensure compliance.' [same as 1.]
- Isn't it interesting how all this anti-creationism makes jobs for atheists. (One could see it as a make work project.) Of course it's not only anti-creationism that makes for gov. jobs, but the larger project of anti-Christianity. There are literally millions of people employed in actively suppressing Christians, Christianity, and christian rights.
Notes;
1. Sweden Bans Creationism: Creation/Evolution Headlines 10/16/2007
2. It was not for a lack of evidence that Roland Huntford wrote a book on Sweden called the 'New Totalitarians' (available on some p2p sites) That was many years ago [1971] and the situation has just gotten worse. Socialism isn't about compassion, it's about totalitarian domination; it's about an oligarchy governing the populace by tyranny. (All for their own good of course.) It's about treating adults like children; it's about the loss of liberty.
3. to use the same word for different things commits the fallacy of equivocation.
4. Fundamentalist has been made (manufactured) into a term of abuse; when it simply isn't. It's a kind of fake word. Words like fundament, fundamental used to be considered ordinary useful words. The language vandals (guerillas) have destroyed the word, and especially its extension fundamentalist.
- I caution people that there can be no community where words are used as weapons.
5. This whole episode (being perpetrated around the world by the Darwinian elite) is so twisted and stupid it's hard to believe. People have no real freedom if they can't believe as they wish on the matter of Origins.
- how people can insist man is just an animal on the one hand, and then ban teaching on creation is more than I can comprehend. The latter simply doesn't follow from the former. (This isn't an argument, but simply Irrationalism.)
6. Fundamental;
- c.1443, "primary, original, pertaining to a foundation," modeled on L.L. fundamentalis "of the foundation," from L. fundamentum "foundation" (see fundament).
- for those of you who like etymological humor; everyone needs a place to sit.
7. Gramsci's stock has been on a steady climb for decades. (As evidence of this his name gets almost 9 million hits on Yahoo search.
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